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	<description>Trading the worlds financial markets from the comfort of my attic</description>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck I&#039;m sure you will do fine wherever you end up. Writing a book though huh, whats it going to be structured around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck I&#8217;m sure you will do fine wherever you end up. Writing a book though huh, whats it going to be structured around?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Atticman,


Thank you for writing back to my earlier post.  My trend trading strategy has been not working too well since the market has been somewhat choppy, so I shorted my EMA to 5 and 8 instead and looking for more compelling bullish/bearish crosses, so there is a quicker response time.  As basic as it sounds, I have not done a win/loss analysis and breakeven as you described earlier and have begun to start that as well.


My charting software does not have Keltner channels so I am not exactly sure how they work.  How are they different from a Bollinger Band 2 standard deviation and 20 period EMA ?

Thanks again for your help/time and best of luck to you in the new year.



-Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Atticman,</p>
<p>Thank you for writing back to my earlier post.  My trend trading strategy has been not working too well since the market has been somewhat choppy, so I shorted my EMA to 5 and 8 instead and looking for more compelling bullish/bearish crosses, so there is a quicker response time.  As basic as it sounds, I have not done a win/loss analysis and breakeven as you described earlier and have begun to start that as well.</p>
<p>My charting software does not have Keltner channels so I am not exactly sure how they work.  How are they different from a Bollinger Band 2 standard deviation and 20 period EMA ?</p>
<p>Thanks again for your help/time and best of luck to you in the new year.</p>
<p>-Mike</p>
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		<title>By: atticmantrader</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>atticmantrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bhavesh and Tim,
Thanks for taking the time out to post on the blog. The move into the new flat is now complete (I&#039;m going for a Feng Shui minimalistic approach to furniture - oh, ok, thats right, I have no furniture as yet!). But glad to have finally made the move.

I&#039;ll begin posting blog entries shortly - infact I&#039;m planning a couple now, one of which will address yet more of my findings on the psychological aspects of trading - A particularly poignant post given the last couple of weeks.

AtticManTrader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bhavesh and Tim,<br />
Thanks for taking the time out to post on the blog. The move into the new flat is now complete (I&#8217;m going for a Feng Shui minimalistic approach to furniture &#8211; oh, ok, thats right, I have no furniture as yet!). But glad to have finally made the move.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll begin posting blog entries shortly &#8211; infact I&#8217;m planning a couple now, one of which will address yet more of my findings on the psychological aspects of trading &#8211; A particularly poignant post given the last couple of weeks.</p>
<p>AtticManTrader</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Atticmantrader, I&#039;ve been following your updates with interest on Twitter. I hope the new job is going well, best of luck for your trading and other ventures in 2010. 

Cheers

Tim
www.eminifuturesblog.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Atticmantrader, I&#8217;ve been following your updates with interest on Twitter. I hope the new job is going well, best of luck for your trading and other ventures in 2010. </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim<br />
<a href="http://www.eminifuturesblog.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.eminifuturesblog.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bhavesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhavesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came across your blog. Ilove your articles around the elusive subject on Psychology. Keep the blogs up - I will be tunning in.

Being a day trader like yourself I find the trading mindset a tricky subject to master :-)

Bhavesh
www.tradefxlive.co.uk/blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across your blog. Ilove your articles around the elusive subject on Psychology. Keep the blogs up &#8211; I will be tunning in.</p>
<p>Being a day trader like yourself I find the trading mindset a tricky subject to master <img src='http://www.atticmantrader.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bhavesh<br />
<a href="http://www.tradefxlive.co.uk/blog" rel="nofollow">http://www.tradefxlive.co.uk/blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: atticmantrader</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>atticmantrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,
Thanks for the post, I really enjoyed reading this one. You do trade in much the same way that I trade. It seems as though your strategy works well in a trending market, but as the market starts to chop, your stops are too close.

How do you define the overall longer term trend of the market? Personally I use the weekly FTSE100 index. If the market is above the 8 and 21EMA then I predominantly look for long trades. If the market is below the 8 and 21EMA then I&#039;m looking at shorting opportunities. If the market is chopping, then I&#039;ll look to increase my stops (still a max of 2%, but I&#039;ll buy less stock) and trade in exactly the same way.

It appears to me as though you trading strategy is a Trend following system. Most trend following systems have less than 50% winning trades. The key to their success is that the winners are far superior to the losers. If your system has been back-tested against all market conditions, then you will have a fair idea as to what these ratios are (W/L, Av Winner/Av loser). A combination of those ratios is used to calculate a really useful ratio called &#039;expectancy&#039;. ([% winners * Av win size] - [% Losers * Av loss size]). If this ratio is greater than 1, then over the long run, you should expect your system to perform in all market conditions. If that is the case, then you simply need to keep following the signals and trusting in your methodology. This sounds MUCH easier than it actually is!

You could also consider developing a different trading strategy that works on choppy markets. You might like to reduce the time frame (1-2 days?) and consider a system that looks at making smaller gains. For example there are theories to suggest that during periods of chop, markets oscillate above and below what is called &#039;fair value&#039;. If you were able to draw a Keltner Channel either side of a choppy stock, you would see that the stock would invariably reach the upper channel and then reverse until it hit the lower channel, before bouncing back up to the upper channel. 

Thanks for the post and please drop me a line if any of the above requires more explanation.

Cheers
AtticManTrader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,<br />
Thanks for the post, I really enjoyed reading this one. You do trade in much the same way that I trade. It seems as though your strategy works well in a trending market, but as the market starts to chop, your stops are too close.</p>
<p>How do you define the overall longer term trend of the market? Personally I use the weekly FTSE100 index. If the market is above the 8 and 21EMA then I predominantly look for long trades. If the market is below the 8 and 21EMA then I&#8217;m looking at shorting opportunities. If the market is chopping, then I&#8217;ll look to increase my stops (still a max of 2%, but I&#8217;ll buy less stock) and trade in exactly the same way.</p>
<p>It appears to me as though you trading strategy is a Trend following system. Most trend following systems have less than 50% winning trades. The key to their success is that the winners are far superior to the losers. If your system has been back-tested against all market conditions, then you will have a fair idea as to what these ratios are (W/L, Av Winner/Av loser). A combination of those ratios is used to calculate a really useful ratio called &#8216;expectancy&#8217;. ([% winners * Av win size] &#8211; [% Losers * Av loss size]). If this ratio is greater than 1, then over the long run, you should expect your system to perform in all market conditions. If that is the case, then you simply need to keep following the signals and trusting in your methodology. This sounds MUCH easier than it actually is!</p>
<p>You could also consider developing a different trading strategy that works on choppy markets. You might like to reduce the time frame (1-2 days?) and consider a system that looks at making smaller gains. For example there are theories to suggest that during periods of chop, markets oscillate above and below what is called &#8216;fair value&#8217;. If you were able to draw a Keltner Channel either side of a choppy stock, you would see that the stock would invariably reach the upper channel and then reverse until it hit the lower channel, before bouncing back up to the upper channel. </p>
<p>Thanks for the post and please drop me a line if any of the above requires more explanation.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
AtticManTrader</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-670</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Atticman,

I saw your video on the moneyshow and have been following your blog.  I&#039;ve been in the same boat as you throughout my progression of trading.  I started this Feb 2009 (coicidently) towards the bottom of the market.  The last 10 months have been great, but of course the monster rally attributed a lot to that.


I likewise have a fulltime day job as well, so day trading is not an option for me, plus day trading typically deals with razor thin margins often times, so I feel like I have to take more risk with larger doses of cash to make gains.  Also I don&#039;t have the biggest account out there either ($30k USD), but I don&#039;t use margin at all.


Anyways, I&#039;ve also been struggling with a swing trade that I can let run for 2-5 days which is my ideal trading time, long enough to manage part-time with work, but still enough to make profits to trade.

My trading software does not have the Keltner channels, but has most basic other trading options though.


Is there something by chance you could recommend me to try that might make sense ? I saw that you were doing the 8 EMA vs. 28 EMA crossovers then taking positions accordingly, then putting a preliminary 2% stop-loss.  I think I am putting my stops @ 0.5% way too tight.  Now that the market is for real and not just a non-stop train upwards, I really have to adjust accordingly.


Anyways, just thought I&#039;d ask b/c I am in the same boat as you and I love trading, but I am having a hard time figuring out what to do now that the dynamics are much different, esp going into the new year.


-Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Atticman,</p>
<p>I saw your video on the moneyshow and have been following your blog.  I&#8217;ve been in the same boat as you throughout my progression of trading.  I started this Feb 2009 (coicidently) towards the bottom of the market.  The last 10 months have been great, but of course the monster rally attributed a lot to that.</p>
<p>I likewise have a fulltime day job as well, so day trading is not an option for me, plus day trading typically deals with razor thin margins often times, so I feel like I have to take more risk with larger doses of cash to make gains.  Also I don&#8217;t have the biggest account out there either ($30k USD), but I don&#8217;t use margin at all.</p>
<p>Anyways, I&#8217;ve also been struggling with a swing trade that I can let run for 2-5 days which is my ideal trading time, long enough to manage part-time with work, but still enough to make profits to trade.</p>
<p>My trading software does not have the Keltner channels, but has most basic other trading options though.</p>
<p>Is there something by chance you could recommend me to try that might make sense ? I saw that you were doing the 8 EMA vs. 28 EMA crossovers then taking positions accordingly, then putting a preliminary 2% stop-loss.  I think I am putting my stops @ 0.5% way too tight.  Now that the market is for real and not just a non-stop train upwards, I really have to adjust accordingly.</p>
<p>Anyways, just thought I&#8217;d ask b/c I am in the same boat as you and I love trading, but I am having a hard time figuring out what to do now that the dynamics are much different, esp going into the new year.</p>
<p>-Mike</p>
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		<title>By: AtticManTrader</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>AtticManTrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will certainly be back Mao - I&#039;m only taking a short break in order to move house and re-establish my base! I do find when my mind is focused on other things, that my trading is incredibly hard to focus on. Probably a sign that the system still requires too much discretionary input. 

The new year will signal the re-birth of an invigorated AtticManTrader :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will certainly be back Mao &#8211; I&#8217;m only taking a short break in order to move house and re-establish my base! I do find when my mind is focused on other things, that my trading is incredibly hard to focus on. Probably a sign that the system still requires too much discretionary input. </p>
<p>The new year will signal the re-birth of an invigorated AtticManTrader <img src='http://www.atticmantrader.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mao</title>
		<link>http://www.atticmantrader.com/2009/11/leaving-the-attic/comment-page-1/#comment-612</link>
		<dc:creator>Mao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Daniel, hope you enjoy your time off and come back some day. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Definitely keep this website up and running because yeah dinningroomtabletrader does suck. Cheers and all the best to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Daniel, hope you enjoy your time off and come back some day. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Definitely keep this website up and running because yeah dinningroomtabletrader does suck. Cheers and all the best to you!</p>
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		<title>By: AtticMan trader</title>
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		<dc:creator>AtticMan trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Stocks,
I&#039;m looking forward to it. A new year - a new chapter!

The book is going to be a trading diary - similar to the blog, focused on my experiences trading a 10K account. It will include chapters on strategy design, money management and of course, my favorite topic - trading discipline. 

I have interest from publisher, so now I need to get my head down and start writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Stocks,<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to it. A new year &#8211; a new chapter!</p>
<p>The book is going to be a trading diary &#8211; similar to the blog, focused on my experiences trading a 10K account. It will include chapters on strategy design, money management and of course, my favorite topic &#8211; trading discipline. </p>
<p>I have interest from publisher, so now I need to get my head down and start writing!</p>
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